My arrival in Mumbai got pushed back a week because I wasn’t aware of the issues I’d have getting an Indian Visa. I’m still in Istanbul and will be here until Monday the 23rd. Thus far, I’ve been lucky and haven’t really had to even think about visas with my American passport. Not so with red tape-ified India.
Consider this utilitarian post simply a PSA for people Googling the same thing I tried rather than the usual travel stories and pictures I post. I would have liked to read it before I tried this process. If you’re in Turkey and you need a visa to go to India, read on. Otherwise, I doubt you’ll find this very interesting.
In this post:
- Go to Ankara, Yankee.
- Details of obtaining an Indian Tourist Visa in Ankara, Turkey:
- Required documents to apply for Indian Visa
- Location of Indian Embassy in Ankara
- Why the Indian consulate is a no-go in Istanbul.
- Location of Indian Consulate in Istanbul, for Americans looking to waste time.
Quick Answer:
If you’re an American, don’t try to get a tourist visa for India at the Indian consulate in Istanbul. I tried it a week ago without success and have read about others that failed with the same issues as me. (Dave’s blog post is a useful read and jives with my experience.) You need to go to the embassy in Ankara, you need to bring some specific stuff with you, and you need four business days to get it done.
Citizens of other countries should have relatively few problems in Istanbul as long as they can go to their respective embassies and obtain the “Note Verbal” letter required by the Indian consulate to issue the visa. The “note verbal,” as explained to me, is an official letter from one’s government confirming the validity of their passport, that they are free to travel to India, and that the government is requesting a visa for it’s citizen.
Go to Ankara:
The hours to apply for the visa at the Indian Embassy in Ankara are 10:00 AM until 11:30 AM, Monday through Friday. I would advise getting there a little before 10 in the morning and waiting so you’re the first in line to go in - that way you might have time to go deal with anything unexpected that comes up before they close. You can only pick up your documents from 5:00 to 5:30 PM. It takes 4 business days to get your visa. I applied on Monday morning, I get my visa on Friday at 5:00.
Required documents to bring with you to apply in Ankara:
- Your passport, which you will leave at the Indian embassy.
- 2 passport-sized photos.
- A bank statement (I just printed out the balance and account activity pages from two of my checking accounts online because I have no access to a proper statement from Turkey. The guy didn’t seem to mind.)
- Your flight information for arrival AND DEPARTURE from India. You need to show proof of onward travel. I haven’t reserved my outgoing ticket yet because I travel with no plan and don’t know how long I’ll be in India. I now have to find a refundable ticket and just book it to show him.
- $75 US Dollars in exact change. Despite the fact that the guy has a drawer full of $5 bills, he will send you packing if you try to give him four 20s. It is not his job to make this in any way convenient for you. There is a money-changing place past the mall / space needle south of the Embassy in Ankara, should you need it.
The application form will also ask you for details about proposed entry/exit dates and where you plan to go in India. There is no express option to get the visa quicker.
Location of the Embassy in Ankara:
77 A Chinnah Caddesi
Cankaya, Ankara
Phone: 90 312 4382195
Fax: 90 312 4403429
Putting the above address in Google Maps/Earth doesn’t return exactly the right location. The pointer on this map is the exact location; I just walked to it yesterday:
Here’s a link to the Indian Embassy in Ankara on a Google Map or you can see this pointer for the actual building you’re going to:
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Bus to Anakara
I wanted to get my visa as quickly as possible and wasn’t interested in spending time in Ankara, so I took a night bus from Istanbul. The company “Metro Turizm” has buses from Istanbul to Ankara for only 25 Lira. Useful Turkish bus details are here on the Turkey Travel Planner site. It’s about 5 or 6 hours by bus to Ankara from Istanbul depending on which part of Istanbul you leave from.
I took a night bus (Varan Bus) that left at 2:30 and arrived at the station in Ankara at 7:30. Varan is a bit more expensive than Metro, but you can book tickets online. Varan’s website is here.
From the bus station in Ankara (called ASTI, pronounced “Ahsh-tee”), follow all the people leaving the bus terminal to take the metro to the “Kizilay” station. From here you can get a cab to the embassy with the above address. It should be about 8 or 10 Lira for the cab.
Why Americans can’t get the visa in Istanbul - Don’t bother with going to the US Consulate.
According to the Indian consulate, they need the aforementioned “note verbal” from one’s government to process a visa request because they are not equipped to check the validity of one’s passport at their office in Istanbul.
The United States consulate in Istanbul will refuse to write this letter and the result is bureaucratic gridlock.
Upon speaking with the visa application desk person at the Indian Consulate, they will ask you for the note verbal, show you an example of one, and then cheerily suggest that you go to the American embassy to obtain the note, even though they know full-well that the American embassy won’t give it to you. Despite the fact that they know the embassy won’t give the letter, the send you that way anyway. Don’t waste your time with this. The American embassy is very far away and will charge you $30 for an official paper written in 1995 that says they won’t write the letter and that your passport itself is all you should need to travel.
Before visiting the consulate, I was fortunate to have read the blog entries posted by Dave the Nomad, Ben Sellon, and “akroadweed.” and expected this. Here are the links if you’d like to read more:
Consulate Conundrum, December 2008
Hell Gets Hotter, December 2007
The Indian Visa Saga, May 2007
Apparently Ben and Alaska Person were able to get schedule an interview to get their visa, but this took 3 weeks. I asked for an interview and they wouldn’t even give it to me. Perhaps they’ve stopped doing this over the last year?
For me, no amount of pleading, charming, reasoning, waiting after they told me to leave, and even talking to the big boss with squinty eyes and glasses against the visa lady’s permission were any good. Quoth squinty-eyed big boss, “I am sorry, sir, I can do nothing. I cannot help you. As one man to another, of course I want you to come visit my country, but we are not equipped to grant you a visa without a letter from your consulate, which they will not give. A thousand apologies, sir. You do realize, though, that when Indians attempt to go to your country perhaps 2 out of 10 are allowed. They must pay 8 or 9,000 rupees to enter.”
“Yes, sir, I understand this. It is very lamentable.”
“Perhaps you don’t understand,” he continued, “this is enough food for a family of four to eat for two months. The money is not returned if they are not allowed.”
“I do understand. It is the same everywhere I go. I have friends that can’t visit me for the same reason.”
“Of course. I am not trying to reciprocate this behavior, but I am simply helpless.”
After a few more minutes of platitudes and condolences, his phone rang and after more than an hour waiting and being given the general run-around, I finally left.
Finding the Indian Consulate in Istanbul:
If you’re not American or you do decide to go to the Indian Consulate anyway, it can be difficult to find. It’s half a mile (.7 KM) north of Taksim square. The location of this pointer on this Google map is the rough location of the building. I walked around for a long time trying to find number 18 on the main Cumhuriyet avenue without luck - it isn’t where it seems like it should be based on the numbers you see on the street. If you ask people for “Dortler,” a few of them should know where it is.
The building is one of the big, free-standing ones on the east side of Cumhuriyet and the entrance door is on the south side of the building — in other words, you need to go around the side of the building. Here’s the map link. Check out the satellite view:
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This is the address:
Consulate General of India, Istanbul
Cumhuriyet Caddesi No. 18
Dortler Apartments
7th Floor, Elmadag
Istanbul, Turkey
Telephone: +90 212 2962131, +90 212 2962132
Fax: +90 212 2962130
Good luck! Enjoy the red tape.